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From: T987654321 (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Thu, 03.06.21 10:43
Cosmic Sin
From: T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com>

" In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the =
outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after=
soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The thr=
eat against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. G=
eneral Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in=
a race to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey Re=
eves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilso=
n, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
Director Edward Drake "


Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone w=
ould be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens =
planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap=
mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.
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From: Paul S Person (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Thu, 17.06.21 19:57
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid>

On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 23:43:29 -0700 (PDT), T987654321
<qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

>" In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the
outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after
soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat
against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General
Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to
stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
>Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey
Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson,
Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
>Director Edward Drake "
>
>
>Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone
would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens
planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap
mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
rating of 3%.

And the actual reviews were even worse, IIRC.

And, no, Bruce didn't save it. Not even "sort of". According to the
reviews, that is.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
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From: Paul S Person (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Thu, 17.06.21 20:05
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid>

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 22:10:02 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 6/17/2021 6:04 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 6/4/2021 1:43 AM, T987654321 wrote:
>>> " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing
>>> the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into
>>> service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile
>>> alien fleet. The threat against the human race escalates into an
>>> inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron
>>> Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent
>>> attack before it is too late.
>>> Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large,
>>> Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide
>>> Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
>>> Director Edward Drake "
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in
>>> tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like
>>> today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo
>>> sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing that sort of saved it
>>> from total dreck is Bruce.
>>
>> I thought you were kidding about the movie name.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Sin
>>
>I think the only explanation for how it got made is someone cashed in a
>TON of blackmail material.

The /real/ question is:

is this film so bad that, had I seen it with my fellow-soldiers in the
70s, we would have concluded that it must have /escaped/, since no
sane person would ever have released it?

Note that we were seeing these films on post, so some of them were
being run through the circuit to see how we reacted before inflicting
them on the general public.

Indeed, the DVD of /The Big Sleep/ (Bogie & Bacall version) comes with
two sides: one has the original version, shown to the US troops in
Europe, and the other has the recut version (recut to give Bacall more
glamour shots) that was released to civilians. They actually had to
re-film the ending because the original actress playing the missing
wife was not available to help with inserting more Bacall into it, so
using the Army as a test audience was a long-standing practice by the
70s. (All info on the two versions is based on a "special feature" on
the DVD.Wink
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
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From: Wolffan (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Fri, 18.06.21 07:20
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>

On 2021 Jun 04, T987654321 wrote
(in article<54765772-8d30-4943-879d-a4b9e61bf331n@googlegroups.com>):

> " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the
> outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after
> soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat
> against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General
> Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race
> to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
> Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey
> Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke
> Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
> Director Edward Drake "
>
> Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone
> would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens
> planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap
> mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

I think that I ve seen part of the trailer. Only part, I switched to
something interesting. However, Bruce was out front with a Very Big Gun.
He s a _general_? Generals aren t supposed to be out front with Very Big
Guns. The last general I can think of who was out front with a Very Big Gun
or close enough to it was the gentleman in Korea who got a Medal of Honor for
killing a tank with a grenade... which begs the question of What the _####_
was William ####ing Insane Dean _doing_ close enough to an enemy tank to kill
it with a grenade?! Worse, Bruce has a sword or a machete or something; the
last general I can think of who actually used a sword in action was Colin
Campbell, while assaulting Lucknow s gates, with, ahem, a boy piper on the
parapet playing #### o the North , but then that ol boy _was_ the
madman previously famous for the Thin Red Line. And, besides, he was a Scot.
Us Gaels, we got a thing for sharp edges, we do. What s Bruce s excuse?
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From: Lynn McGuire (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Thu, 17.06.21 09:04
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>

On 6/4/2021 1:43 AM, T987654321 wrote:
> " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the
outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after
soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat
against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General
Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to
stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
> Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey
Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson,
Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
> Director Edward Drake "
>
>
> Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone
would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens
planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap
mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

I thought you were kidding about the movie name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Sin

Lynn
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From: Dimensional Traveler (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Thu, 17.06.21 09:10
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>

On 6/17/2021 6:04 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/4/2021 1:43 AM, T987654321 wrote:
>> " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing
>> the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into
>> service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile
>> alien fleet. The threat against the human race escalates into an
>> inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron
>> Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent
>> attack before it is too late.
>> Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large,
>> Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide
>> Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
>> Director Edward Drake "
>>
>>
>> Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in
>> tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like
>> today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo
>> sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing that sort of saved it
>> from total dreck is Bruce.
>
> I thought you were kidding about the movie name.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Sin
>
I think the only explanation for how it got made is someone cashed in a
TON of blackmail material.


--
Troll, troll, troll your post gently down the thread
Angrily, angrily, angrily, the net's a nut's scream.
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From: Paul S Person (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Fri, 18.06.21 20:09
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid>

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:20:59 -0400, Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:

>On 2021 Jun 04, T987654321 wrote
>(in article<54765772-8d30-4943-879d-a4b9e61bf331n@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the
>> outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after
>> soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The
threat
>> against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war.
General
>> Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race
>> to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
>> Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey
>> Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke
>> Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
>> Director Edward Drake "
>>
>> Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone
>> would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens
>> planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap
>> mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.
>
>I think that I ve seen part of the trailer. Only part, I switched to
>something interesting. However, Bruce was out front with a Very Big Gun.
>He s a _general_? Generals aren t supposed to be out front with Very Big
>Guns. The last general I can think of who was out front with a Very Big Gun
>or close enough to it was the gentleman in Korea who got a Medal of Honor for
>killing a tank with a grenade... which begs the question of What the _####_
>was William ####ing Insane Dean _doing_ close enough to an enemy tank to kill
>it with a grenade?! Worse, Bruce has a sword or a machete or something; the
>last general I can think of who actually used a sword in action was Colin
>Campbell, while assaulting Lucknow s gates, with, ahem, a boy piper on the
>parapet playing #### o the North , but then that ol boy _was_ the
>madman previously famous for the Thin Red Line. And, besides, he was a Scot.
>Us Gaels, we got a thing for sharp edges, we do. What s Bruce s excuse?

Rank inflation.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
--- NewsGate v1.0 gamma 2
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From: Wolffan (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Sat, 19.06.21 03:07
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>

On 2021 Jun 19, Paul S Person wrote
(in article<mk5scgh796vgabt9nqop02j6ndg1obiup5@4ax.com>):

> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:20:59 -0400, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 2021 Jun 04, T987654321 wrote
> > (in article<54765772-8d30-4943-879d-a4b9e61bf331n@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> > > " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing
the
> > > outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service
after
> > > soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The
> > > threat
> > > against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war.
> > > General
> > > Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a
race
> > > to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
> > > Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey
> > > Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke
> > > Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
> > > Director Edward Drake "
> > >
> > > Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone
> > > would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today,
aliens
> > > planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a
cheap
> > > mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.
> >
> > I think that I ve seen part of the trailer. Only part, I switched to
> > something interesting. However, Bruce was out front with a Very Big Gun.
> > He s a _general_? Generals aren t supposed to be out front with Very
Big
> > Guns. The last general I can think of who was out front with a Very Big Gun
> > or close enough to it was the gentleman in Korea who got a Medal of Honor
> > for
> > killing a tank with a grenade... which begs the question of What the _####_
> > was William ####ing Insane Dean _doing_ close enough to an enemy tank to
> > kill
> > it with a grenade?! Worse, Bruce has a sword or a machete or something; the
> > last general I can think of who actually used a sword in action was Colin
> > Campbell, while assaulting Lucknow s gates, with, ahem, a boy piper on
the
> > parapet playing #### o the North , but then that ol boy _was_
the
> > madman previously famous for the Thin Red Line. And, besides, he was a
Scot.
> > Us Gaels, we got a thing for sharp edges, we do. What s Bruce s excuse?
>
> Rank inflation.

That movie appears to be rank...
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From: Neill Massello (1:396/4)
To: All
Date: Sat, 19.06.21 16:57
Re: Cosmic Sin
From: Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com>

On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid>
wrote:

> I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
> rating of 3%.

And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.
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