Fidonet Portal
System name Elist Control
Sysop elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
Location Hatfield, UK
Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
Internet applewood.linkpc.net
Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l
Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
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Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN
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Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
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ELST2205.ZIP 117 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
archive for the Fidonet network.
it includes complete information of all
Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
files in (ERULyymm.Zip).
If other nets are present, then files
{othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are also present.
FIDONet EList v5.2 is (c) 2019-2022
by Vincent B Coen 2:25/21 or 2:250/1
Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com
Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
2:25/21 or 2:250/1 and these must be done
every six months or sooner.
Magic request: ECHOLIST
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1 file, 117 KBytes.
1 new file, together 117 KBytes of fresh stuff.
With regards; elistmaint.
... "Suicide Hotline...please hold."
--- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
* Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
Sysop elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
Location Hatfield, UK
Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
Internet applewood.linkpc.net
Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l
Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
ELST2205.ZIP 117 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
archive for the Fidonet network.
it includes complete information of all
Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
files in (ERULyymm.Zip).
If other nets are present, then files
{othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are also present.
FIDONet EList v5.2 is (c) 2019-2022
by Vincent B Coen 2:25/21 or 2:250/1
Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com
Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
2:25/21 or 2:250/1 and these must be done
every six months or sooner.
Magic request: ECHOLIST
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 file, 117 KBytes.
1 new file, together 117 KBytes of fresh stuff.
With regards; elistmaint.
... "Suicide Hotline...please hold."
--- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
* Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
Hi Vince,
On 2022-09-19 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> ELST~JFY.ZIP 140 Kb. Zip'd echo lists archive created Monthly
EaP> Magic request: ECHOLIST
Maybe intentional? But the FILE_ID.DIZ was missing from the zip files I
received today...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2022-09-19 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> ELST~JFY.ZIP 140 Kb. Zip'd echo lists archive created Monthly
EaP> Magic request: ECHOLIST
Maybe intentional? But the FILE_ID.DIZ was missing from the zip files I
received today...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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Hi Elistmaint,
On 2022-10-01 08:00:02, you wrote to All:
EaP> EL220930.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
+++
Elist v5.4.006 EchoList Database Report Group:FIDO
As of 30th September 2022 23:30:02.13
[...]
{ 10 records with Warnings reported }
+++
How are Warnings counted and reported on in the .RPT file?
I count only 3 areas with a " WARNING CNT ..." line in the above file.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2022-10-01 08:00:02, you wrote to All:
EaP> EL220930.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
+++
Elist v5.4.006 EchoList Database Report Group:FIDO
As of 30th September 2022 23:30:02.13
[...]
{ 10 records with Warnings reported }
+++
How are Warnings counted and reported on in the .RPT file?
I count only 3 areas with a " WARNING CNT ..." line in the above file.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
Hi Vince,
On 2022-10-17 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> EL221015.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
Have you noticed the double printing of email addresses on a lot of the areas?
Like this:
TAGname: Z2REGION25 Group: FIDO
TITLe: Zone 2 Region 25 Conference for all Nodes and invited guests
...
From: Vincent Coen, 2:250/1
Email: vbcoen@gmail.com
Email:
Email: vbcoen@gmail.com
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2022-10-17 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> EL221015.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
Have you noticed the double printing of email addresses on a lot of the areas?
Like this:
TAGname: Z2REGION25 Group: FIDO
TITLe: Zone 2 Region 25 Conference for all Nodes and invited guests
...
From: Vincent Coen, 2:250/1
Email: vbcoen@gmail.com
Email:
Email: vbcoen@gmail.com
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
Hi Vince,
On 2023-01-03 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
EaP> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
EaP> ELST2301.ZIP 209 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
EaP> archive for the Fidonet network.
EaP> it includes complete information of all
^ lower case?
Furthermore I noticed a few things, that might be intentional or not?
- This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it self.
- BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas.
- BACKBONE.RPT now contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.
- Some more entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.:
0015/41/03)
- BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas.
- ELIST.NA has the identical content as BACKBONE.NA.
- ELIST.RPT has almost the identical content as BACKBONE.RPT.
- FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about fidonet areas.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2023-01-03 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
EaP> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
EaP> ELST2301.ZIP 209 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
EaP> archive for the Fidonet network.
EaP> it includes complete information of all
^ lower case?
Furthermore I noticed a few things, that might be intentional or not?
- This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it self.
- BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas.
- BACKBONE.RPT now contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.
- Some more entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.:
0015/41/03)
- BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas.
- ELIST.NA has the identical content as BACKBONE.NA.
- ELIST.RPT has almost the identical content as BACKBONE.RPT.
- FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about fidonet areas.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
Hi Vincent,
On 2023-01-03 16:54:35, you wrote to me:
>> - This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it
>> self.
VC> My announcements for all such areas are processed after 07:00 GMT.
Why not just send it out at the same time as the zip file is hatched?
>> - BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas. - BACKBONE.RPT now
>> contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas. - Some more
>> entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.:
>> 0015/41/03) - BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas. - ELIST.NA has the
>> identical content as BACKBONE.NA. - ELIST.RPT has almost the identical
>> content as BACKBONE.RPT. - FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about
>> fidonet areas.
VC> This is wrong, so need to look what the last changes made that effect this
VC> as am sure it was not doing so previously.
VC> Thanks for the report.
VC> I will try and do it today or failing that Wednesday.
No rush! ;-)
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2023-01-03 16:54:35, you wrote to me:
>> - This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it
>> self.
VC> My announcements for all such areas are processed after 07:00 GMT.
Why not just send it out at the same time as the zip file is hatched?
>> - BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas. - BACKBONE.RPT now
>> contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.
- Some more
>> entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.:
>> 0015/41/03) - BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas. - ELIST.NA has the
>> identical content as BACKBONE.NA. - ELIST.RPT has almost the identical
>> content as BACKBONE.RPT. - FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about
>> fidonet areas.
VC> This is wrong, so need to look what the last changes made that effect this
VC> as am sure it was not doing so previously.
VC> Thanks for the report.
VC> I will try and do it today or failing that Wednesday.
No rush! ;-)
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
Hi Vincent,
On 2023-01-03 17:11:31, you wrote to me:
>> contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.
VC> The rules are posted twice a year - January and July ONLY but echo's that
VC> are updated do have them posted in ELIST as part of the announcements. I
VC> did consider not doing so for the announcements but I wanted to
VC> remind moderators of their over extended size and un-needed information
VC> Falls on deaf ears any way by the look of it.
They put all that effort in that big rules text. They don't want to shorten it
down, just because you think it is too much. ;-)
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2023-01-03 17:11:31, you wrote to me:
>> contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.
VC> The rules are posted twice a year - January and July ONLY but echo's that
VC> are updated do have them posted in ELIST as part of the announcements. I
VC> did consider not doing so for the announcements but I wanted to
VC> remind moderators of their over extended size and un-needed information
VC> Falls on deaf ears any way by the look of it.
They put all that effort in that big rules text. They don't want to shorten it
down, just because you think it is too much. ;-)
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
Hi Vince,
On 2023-01-11 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
This one reports this at the bottom:
{ 43 records with Warnings reported }
But:
# grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
19
???
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.5.1-B20230107
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2023-01-11 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:
EaP> EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
This one reports this at the bottom:
{ 43 records with Warnings reported }
But:
# grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
19
???
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.5.1-B20230107
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
Hi Vincent,
On 2023-01-11 14:37:47, you wrote to me:
EaP>>> EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
>> This one reports this at the bottom:
>> { 43 records with Warnings reported }
>> But:
>> # grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
>> 19
>> ???
VC> cat ELIST.RPT | grep WARNING | wc -l
VC> 19
VC> Ditto for BACKBONE.RPT so it should be 38, I will take a look at the code
VC> Thanks for the bug report.
VC> I will have to make a decision on the way it is computed any way as it
VC> looks like counting for all reports but the count then should be 38.
I think it should only mention the number in ELIST.RPT. The ones in ELIST.RPT
and BACKBONE.RPT are probably the same areas with warnings anyway...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.5.1-B20230107
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2023-01-11 14:37:47, you wrote to me:
EaP>>> EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
>> This one reports this at the bottom:
>> { 43 records with Warnings reported }
>> But:
>> # grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
>> 19
>> ???
VC> cat ELIST.RPT | grep WARNING | wc -l
VC> 19
VC> Ditto for BACKBONE.RPT so it should be 38, I will take a look at the code
VC> Thanks for the bug report.
VC> I will have to make a decision on the way it is computed any way as it
VC> looks like counting for all reports but the count then should be 38.
I think it should only mention the number in ELIST.RPT. The ones in ELIST.RPT
and BACKBONE.RPT are probably the same areas with warnings anyway...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.5.1-B20230107
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)