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On 11/11/2020 10:30 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen - Charles Pierson":
> WV>> This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
> WV>> know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
> WV>> instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
>
> CP> Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actually get
a
> CP> reply.
>
> I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
> Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in the
Fidogazette.
This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding Fidonet
echos.
It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way to
announce active/live echos.
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> WV>> This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
> WV>> know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
> WV>> instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
>
> CP> Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actually get
a
> CP> reply.
>
> I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
> Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in the
Fidogazette.
This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding Fidonet
echos.
It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way to
announce active/live echos.
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From:
Charles Pierson (1:153/757.26)
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 13:23
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 13:23
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
On 15 Dec 2020, August Abolins said the following...
AA> On 11/11/2020 10:30 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen - Charles Pierson":
AA>
AA> > WV>> This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
AA> > WV>> know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
AA> > WV>> instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
AA> >
AA> > CP> Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actuall
AA> > CP>
AA> a
AA> > CP> reply.
AA> >
AA> > I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
AA> > Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
AA>
AA> But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in
AA> the Fidogazette.
There are many, many echos that aren't listed. That doesn't mean they aren'tt
connected though.
AA> This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding
AA> Fidonet echos.
Echos are limited by whatever the Sysop carries. I've read discussions about
it where some sysops have said they only carry those areas which interest
them. That's fair, it's their system after all. So it becomes a crap shoot
whether or not a particular Echo is on a particular system.
AA> It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way to
AA> announce active/live echos.
AA>
You aren't going to get real-time with FTN Technology. The best you'lll get
is those systems that have bots or whatever that post stats from their
systems.
But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that are stilk
on various systems. you have to muddle through and find them, and see which
ones still are linked to multiple systems, and if you want, you can get them
relisted as "official" echos on the ELIST.
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AA> On 11/11/2020 10:30 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen - Charles Pierson":
AA>
AA> > WV>> This is the first message I ever got in this area, didn't even
AA> > WV>> know I was connected to it. ;-) What made you post in this area
AA> > WV>> instead of 'ASTRONOMY' ?
AA> >
AA> > CP> Honestly, morbid curiosity. I like seeing which areas will actuall
AA> > CP>
AA> a
AA> > CP> reply.
AA> >
AA> > I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
AA> > Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
AA>
AA> But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in
AA> the Fidogazette.
There are many, many echos that aren't listed. That doesn't mean they aren'tt
connected though.
AA> This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding
AA> Fidonet echos.
Echos are limited by whatever the Sysop carries. I've read discussions about
it where some sysops have said they only carry those areas which interest
them. That's fair, it's their system after all. So it becomes a crap shoot
whether or not a particular Echo is on a particular system.
AA> It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way to
AA> announce active/live echos.
AA>
You aren't going to get real-time with FTN Technology. The best you'lll get
is those systems that have bots or whatever that post stats from their
systems.
But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that are stilk
on various systems. you have to muddle through and find them, and see which
ones still are linked to multiple systems, and if you want, you can get them
relisted as "official" echos on the ELIST.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 17:09
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 17:09
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
Hi August,
On 2020-12-15 14:52:32, you wrote to me:
>> I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
>> Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
AA> But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in
the
AA> Fidogazette.
I never look at it. ;)
If I want to look for (active) areas, I look in the 'STATS' echomail area. All
those dead areas, are best left that way! ;)
AA> This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding
AA> Fidonet echos.
The best way, still, to find areas for points and nodes, is to send a %LIST to
their links. So you get the existing ones on their systems. (Not necessarily
the active ones)
BBS users of course can only access what is available on the system they are
logged in to at the moment...
AA> It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way
AA> to announce active/live echos.
The 'STATS' area? But not many systems announce activity their. But still since
a few major mail movers do, you can get a good impression.
Bye, Wilfred.
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On 2020-12-15 14:52:32, you wrote to me:
>> I'm going to connect it on my other links that have it available.
>> Maybe that will release some isolated "sub nets" of the area. ;-)
AA> But it is not getting attention. It's not in Janice's echolist table in
the
AA> Fidogazette.
I never look at it. ;)
If I want to look for (active) areas, I look in the 'STATS' echomail area. All
those dead areas, are best left that way! ;)
AA> This is probably one of the reasons why new people are not finding
AA> Fidonet echos.
The best way, still, to find areas for points and nodes, is to send a %LIST to
their links. So you get the existing ones on their systems. (Not necessarily
the active ones)
BBS users of course can only access what is available on the system they are
logged in to at the moment...
AA> It would be nice if there was a more consolidated (and real-time) way
AA> to announce active/live echos.
The 'STATS' area? But not many systems announce activity their. But still since
a few major mail movers do, you can get a good impression.
Bye, Wilfred.
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 17:15
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 17:15
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
Hi Charles,
On 2020-12-15 13:23:08, you wrote to August Abolins:
CP> Echos are limited by whatever the Sysop carries. I've read discussions
CP> about it where some sysops have said they only carry those areas which
CP> interest them. That's fair, it's their system after all. So it becomes a
CP> crap shoot whether or not a particular Echo is on a particular system.
I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me. I never do
send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to all those hundreds of
long forgotten dead areas that some systems keep in their config.
CP> But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that
CP> are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find
CP> them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems,
Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which at
least had a bit of traffic over the years.
CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the
CP> ELIST.
There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895 8002 8005
CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848 2432/390
CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
This is getting bigger though...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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On 2020-12-15 13:23:08, you wrote to August Abolins:
CP> Echos are limited by whatever the Sysop carries. I've read discussions
CP> about it where some sysops have said they only carry those areas which
CP> interest them. That's fair, it's their system after all. So it becomes a
CP> crap shoot whether or not a particular Echo is on a particular system.
I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me. I never do
send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to all those hundreds of
long forgotten dead areas that some systems keep in their config.
CP> But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that
CP> are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find
CP> them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems,
Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which at
least had a bit of traffic over the years.
CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the
CP> ELIST.
There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895 8002 8005
CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848 2432/390
CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
This is getting bigger though...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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From:
Charles Pierson (1:153/757.26)
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 17:22
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 17:22
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
On 15 Dec 2020, Wilfred van Velzen said the following...
Wv> I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me. I
Wv> never do
Wv> send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to all those
Wv> hundreds of long forgotten dead areas that some systems keep in their
Wv> config.
As a Sysop, that's completely within your rights. I would guess Hubs are the
only systems that would need to carry everything, although I believe it's
possiible to handle transfer of echos without carrying them on your system.
Wv> Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which
Wv> at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
Maybe we don't. It could be that these two echos handled different in times
gone by. Maybe one was strictly announcements and the other had discussions.
The problem is that once an echo is created, it exists forever, unless
somehow every system that carries it deletes it.
Wv> CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the
Wv> CP> ELIST.
Wv>
Wv> There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
Wv>
Notice I put "official" in quotes. I suppose I could have said listed on the
backbone, but that's only Z1 right?
Wv> CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895 8002 800
Wv> CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848 2432/390
Wv> CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
Wv> CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
Wv>
Wv> This is getting bigger though...
Wv>
So it's being seen, if not used.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
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Wv> I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me. I
Wv> never do
Wv> send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to all those
Wv> hundreds of long forgotten dead areas that some systems keep in their
Wv> config.
As a Sysop, that's completely within your rights. I would guess Hubs are the
only systems that would need to carry everything, although I believe it's
possiible to handle transfer of echos without carrying them on your system.
Wv> Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which
Wv> at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
Maybe we don't. It could be that these two echos handled different in times
gone by. Maybe one was strictly announcements and the other had discussions.
The problem is that once an echo is created, it exists forever, unless
somehow every system that carries it deletes it.
Wv> CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the
Wv> CP> ELIST.
Wv>
Wv> There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
Wv>
Notice I put "official" in quotes. I suppose I could have said listed on the
backbone, but that's only Z1 right?
Wv> CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895 8002 800
Wv> CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848 2432/390
Wv> CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
Wv> CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
Wv>
Wv> This is getting bigger though...
Wv>
So it's being seen, if not used.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
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> CP> But I'm sure there are many "abandoned" echos such as this one that
> CP> are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find
> CP> them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems,
> Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which at
> least had a bit of traffic over the years.
I concur. ASTRONOMY is probably "godd enough".
> CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the
> CP> ELIST.
> There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
At least ELIST is a good standard of organizing and announcing the availability
of echos. Without it, sysops are generally do a piss poor job of advertising
and informing users.
> CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895 8002 8005
> CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848 2432/390
> CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
> CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
> This is getting bigger though...
Is it bigger than ASTRONOMY's? Does the SEEN-BY include pass-through systems?
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> CP> are stilk on various systems. you have to muddle through and find
> CP> them, and see which ones still are linked to multiple systems,
> Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY, which at
> least had a bit of traffic over the years.
I concur. ASTRONOMY is probably "godd enough".
> CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos on the
> CP> ELIST.
> There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
At least ELIST is a good standard of organizing and announcing the availability
of echos. Without it, sysops are generally do a piss poor job of advertising
and informing users.
> CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895 8002 8005
> CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848 2432/390
> CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
> CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
> This is getting bigger though...
Is it bigger than ASTRONOMY's? Does the SEEN-BY include pass-through systems?
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 21:00
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Tue, 15.12.20 21:00
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
Hi Charles,
On 2020-12-15 17:22:35, you wrote to me:
Wv>> I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me.
Wv>> I never do send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to
Wv>> all those hundreds of long forgotten dead areas that some systems
Wv>> keep in their config.
CP> As a Sysop, that's completely within your rights. I would guess Hubs are
CP> the only systems that would need to carry everything,
There are no official echomail hubs in fidonet, that need to do anything,
afaik. Echomail is all voluntary.
CP> although I believe it's possiible to handle transfer of echos without
CP> carrying them on your system.
You can configure areas passthrough. So no messages in that area are stored in
your local messagebase. But still you need to connect to them and configure
them. So somehow they are somewhat on your system, "costing" effort and
resources.
Wv>> Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY,
Wv>> which at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
CP> Maybe we don't. It could be that these two echos handled different in
times
CP> gone by. Maybe one was strictly announcements and the other had
CP> discussions.
Could be. Although I think there is an other kind of distinction. ASTRONOMY
being more the scientific area, and ASTRONET sounds more non scientific...
CP> The problem is that once an echo is created, it exists forever, unless
CP> somehow every system that carries it deletes it.
Indeed. And deleting everywhere never happens. It takes a very long time for
dead or abondoned echos to disappear, and some never did. Some even get some
live back in them at one point, like this one. ;)
Wv>> CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos
Wv>> on
Wv>> the
Wv>> CP> ELIST.
Wv>>
Wv>> There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
Wv>>
CP> Notice I put "official" in quotes.
I noticed! ;)
But I still needed to make the remark! ;)
CP> I suppose I could have said listed on the backbone, but that's only Z1
CP> right?
It's only 3 systems connected to each other, which have a level of organisation
and administration for a particular set of areas. ;)
Wv>> CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895
Wv>> 8002
Wv>> 800
Wv>> CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848
Wv>> 2432/390
Wv>> CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
Wv>> CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
Wv>>
Wv>> This is getting bigger though...
CP> So it's being seen, if not used.
It's being spread around...
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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On 2020-12-15 17:22:35, you wrote to me:
Wv>> I used to connect only to areas, that (at least mildly) interest me.
Wv>> I never do send %ALL to AreaFix of my links. I don't need links to
Wv>> all those hundreds of long forgotten dead areas that some systems
Wv>> keep in their config.
CP> As a Sysop, that's completely within your rights. I would guess Hubs are
CP> the only systems that would need to carry everything,
There are no official echomail hubs in fidonet, that need to do anything,
afaik. Echomail is all voluntary.
CP> although I believe it's possiible to handle transfer of echos without
CP> carrying them on your system.
You can configure areas passthrough. So no messages in that area are stored in
your local messagebase. But still you need to connect to them and configure
them. So somehow they are somewhat on your system, "costing" effort and
resources.
Wv>> Why do we need this area anyway? Since there already is ASTRONOMY,
Wv>> which at least had a bit of traffic over the years.
CP> Maybe we don't. It could be that these two echos handled different in
times
CP> gone by. Maybe one was strictly announcements and the other had
CP> discussions.
Could be. Although I think there is an other kind of distinction. ASTRONOMY
being more the scientific area, and ASTRONET sounds more non scientific...
CP> The problem is that once an echo is created, it exists forever, unless
CP> somehow every system that carries it deletes it.
Indeed. And deleting everywhere never happens. It takes a very long time for
dead or abondoned echos to disappear, and some never did. Some even get some
live back in them at one point, like this one. ;)
Wv>> CP> and if you want, you can get them relisted as "official" echos
Wv>> on
Wv>> the
Wv>> CP> ELIST.
Wv>>
Wv>> There is nothing official about the ELIST! ;)
Wv>>
CP> Notice I put "official" in quotes.
I noticed! ;)
But I still needed to make the remark! ;)
CP> I suppose I could have said listed on the backbone, but that's only Z1
CP> right?
It's only 3 systems connected to each other, which have a level of organisation
and administration for a particular set of areas. ;)
Wv>> CP> SEEN-BY: 124/5016 153/757 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 1634 1895
Wv>> 8002
Wv>> 800
Wv>> CP> SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 331/313 335/364 423/120 712/848
Wv>> 2432/390
Wv>> CP> SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4500/1
Wv>> CP> @PATH: 153/757 221/6 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 464
Wv>>
Wv>> This is getting bigger though...
CP> So it's being seen, if not used.
It's being spread around...
Bye, Wilfred.
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Wed, 16.12.20 11:00
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Wed, 16.12.20 11:00
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
Hi August,
On 2020-12-16 03:32:28, you wrote to Charles Pierson:
AA> Who is the "official" moderator of this one?
I found something in an old elist:
ASTRONET
Astronomy Echo
Observational Astronomy Echo.
Status: Active
Origin: Group:
Distribution:
Gateways:
Language:
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags:
Notes:
Moderators: Mark Kaye, 1:249/109, mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
Arnold Gill, 1:153/6.5
Bill McCauley, 1:161/42
Last changed: 2-Jun-2000 by mark.kaye@sympatico.ca, 1:261/1551,
mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
ASTRONOMY
Astronomy Echo
Astronomical observing and astrophysical discussion echo.
Status: Active
Origin: Group:
Distribution:
Gateways:
Language:
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags:
Notes:
Moderators: Mark Kaye, 1:249/109, mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
Arnold Gill, 1:153/6.5
Bill McCauley, 1:161/42
Last changed: 2-Jun-2000 by mark.kaye@sympatico.ca, 1:261/1551,
mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
I think, those moderators are long gone. They are no longer in the nodelist.
And not much difference in the topics between the two.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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On 2020-12-16 03:32:28, you wrote to Charles Pierson:
AA> Who is the "official" moderator of this one?
I found something in an old elist:
ASTRONET
Astronomy Echo
Observational Astronomy Echo.
Status: Active
Origin: Group:
Distribution:
Gateways:
Language:
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags:
Notes:
Moderators: Mark Kaye, 1:249/109, mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
Arnold Gill, 1:153/6.5
Bill McCauley, 1:161/42
Last changed: 2-Jun-2000 by mark.kaye@sympatico.ca, 1:261/1551,
mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
ASTRONOMY
Astronomy Echo
Astronomical observing and astrophysical discussion echo.
Status: Active
Origin: Group:
Distribution:
Gateways:
Language:
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags:
Notes:
Moderators: Mark Kaye, 1:249/109, mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
Arnold Gill, 1:153/6.5
Bill McCauley, 1:161/42
Last changed: 2-Jun-2000 by mark.kaye@sympatico.ca, 1:261/1551,
mark.kaye@sympatico.ca
I think, those moderators are long gone. They are no longer in the nodelist.
And not much difference in the topics between the two.
Bye, Wilfred.
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Wed, 16.12.20 11:07
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
To: All
Date: Wed, 16.12.20 11:07
Re: echos - a morbid curiosity
Hi August,
On 2020-12-16 03:52:40, you wrote to me:
>> Could be. Although I think there is an other kind of distinction.
>> ASTRONOMY being more the scientific area, and ASTRONET sounds more
>> non scientific...
AA> To me ASTRONET sounds more encompassing - as in "NETting" in. So, it
could
AA> be anything with ASTR/O as a prefix: astral projections, astrolabs,
AA> astrodomes, astrophysics, etc..
See my previous message for what the moderators thought about it's subject...
>> Indeed. And deleting everywhere never happens. It takes a very long
>> time for dead or abondoned echos to disappear, and some never did.
>> Some even get some live back in them at one point, like this one. ;)
AA> Perhaps sysops can be encouraged to take stock of their echos at least
once
AA> a year and drop the dead ones.
That would be nice but unrealistic. If even cleaning up the deadwood in the
nodelist by the *C's seems impossible.
AA> Couldn't the EC encourage that as part of standard operations?
EC's? Have you noticed any activity of any EC in the last decade?
Bye, Wilfred.
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On 2020-12-16 03:52:40, you wrote to me:
>> Could be. Although I think there is an other kind of distinction.
>> ASTRONOMY being more the scientific area, and ASTRONET sounds more
>> non scientific...
AA> To me ASTRONET sounds more encompassing - as in "NETting" in. So, it
could
AA> be anything with ASTR/O as a prefix: astral projections, astrolabs,
AA> astrodomes, astrophysics, etc..
See my previous message for what the moderators thought about it's subject...
>> Indeed. And deleting everywhere never happens. It takes a very long
>> time for dead or abondoned echos to disappear, and some never did.
>> Some even get some live back in them at one point, like this one. ;)
AA> Perhaps sysops can be encouraged to take stock of their echos at least
once
AA> a year and drop the dead ones.
That would be nice but unrealistic. If even cleaning up the deadwood in the
nodelist by the *C's seems impossible.
AA> Couldn't the EC encourage that as part of standard operations?
EC's? Have you noticed any activity of any EC in the last decade?
Bye, Wilfred.
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