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From:
August Abolins (2:221/1.58)
To: All
Date: Fri, 25.06.21 23:01
tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
To: All
Date: Fri, 25.06.21 23:01
tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
Hello All!
Interesting comparison --
https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
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Interesting comparison --
https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Sat, 26.06.21 11:06
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
To: All
Date: Sat, 26.06.21 11:06
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
Hi August,
On 2021-06-25 23:01:00, you wrote to All:
AA> Interesting comparison --
AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside gmail). Although
I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too much work... ;)
But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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On 2021-06-25 23:01:00, you wrote to All:
AA> Interesting comparison --
AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside gmail). Although
I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too much work... ;)
But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
From:
August Abolins (1:153/757.2)
To: All
Date: Sat, 26.06.21 10:45
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
To: All
Date: Sat, 26.06.21 10:45
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
> AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
> Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside gmail).
> Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too much work... ;)
I too thought that adding Gmail into the discussion was weird and not a valid
comparison to the other "secure" systems. But the inclusion is educational.
Tutanota was a new one for me, only a few months ago. It's 1GB space vs
Protonmail's 500MB is pretty good. I've been with Protonmail for at least 6
years now, and have 25GB used space, primarily due to the Sent folder keeping
copies I probably no longer need.
No need to switch.. just try to embrace the alternative gradually.
> But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
The inventor of Protonmail has a short TedTalk about it. Again, some
comparisons to the non-secure systems were made.
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> Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside gmail).
> Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too much work... ;)
I too thought that adding Gmail into the discussion was weird and not a valid
comparison to the other "secure" systems. But the inclusion is educational.
Tutanota was a new one for me, only a few months ago. It's 1GB space vs
Protonmail's 500MB is pretty good. I've been with Protonmail for at least 6
years now, and have 25GB used space, primarily due to the Sent folder keeping
copies I probably no longer need.
No need to switch.. just try to embrace the alternative gradually.
> But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
The inventor of Protonmail has a short TedTalk about it. Again, some
comparisons to the non-secure systems were made.
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
From:
August Abolins (1:124/5016)
To: All
Date: Fri, 03.12.21 20:00
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
To: All
Date: Fri, 03.12.21 20:00
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
On 6/26/2021 5:06 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen":
> AA> Interesting comparison --
>
> AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
>
> Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside
> gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too
> much work... ;)
>
> But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
A few weeks ago I learned about FlowCrypt (Firefox plugin) which is designed to
provide an encrypted interface with Gmail. Have you tried that?
Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch the messages
into a local email program?
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Hash: SHA256
On 6/26/2021 5:06 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen":
> AA> Interesting comparison --
>
> AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
>
> Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside
> gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too
> much work... ;)
>
> But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
A few weeks ago I learned about FlowCrypt (Firefox plugin) which is designed to
provide an encrypted interface with Gmail. Have you tried that?
Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch the messages
into a local email program?
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iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE0OsqKVIE8xZ+slA87w6JZVeJWJsFAmGqvaYACgkQ7w6JZVeJ
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IduBI3lgSR2LpiWFi7ZqvVMWm94s3g==
=v2OV
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--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
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From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Sat, 04.12.21 11:25
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
To: All
Date: Sat, 04.12.21 11:25
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
Hi August,
On 2021-12-03 20:00:27, you wrote to me:
>> AA> Interesting comparison --
>>
>> AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
>>
>> Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside
>> gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too
>> much work... ;)
>>
>> But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
AA> A few weeks ago I learned about FlowCrypt (Firefox plugin) which is
AA> designed to provide an encrypted interface with Gmail. Have you tried
AA> that?
No.
AA> Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch the
AA> messages into a local email program?
Thunderbird
AA> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
AA> iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE0OsqKVIE8xZ+slA87w6JZVeJWJsFAmGqvaYACgkQ7w6JZVeJ
AA> WJtjZAf/e4QbRRJ97WufPJ5VNBUr7JkZRiLrv8mA9AqfKmSE1rqEnmw8lGAAFLLM
AA> uoqvRbF4tucmoeetxij1mxmz/uZa1I0ZEK50+Pl5kCHoWObwGQgMALD64/m+6Tqp
AA> ijbo00VrCtiKh6WDos4Lwl0NMsIdveAd8IW/Fkdz9Wx+Wk0rnW6H7nd2kIpHwFqz
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AA> IduBI3lgSR2LpiWFi7ZqvVMWm94s3g==
AA> =v2OV
AA> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check it:
gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID 5789589B
gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
gpg: Can't check signature: General error
Btw: Tommy's signature verify's fine.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2021-12-03 20:00:27, you wrote to me:
>> AA> Interesting comparison --
>>
>> AA> https://tweaklibrary.com/tutanota-vs-protonmail-vs-gmail/
>>
>> Yes interesting! I never heard of the other two before (beside
>> gmail). Although I value my privacy, I'm not going to switch, too
>> much work... ;)
>>
>> But good to know there are alternatives for gmail.
AA> A few weeks ago I learned about FlowCrypt (Firefox plugin) which is
AA> designed to provide an encrypted interface with Gmail. Have you tried
AA> that?
No.
AA> Remind me, how do you integrate gpg with your gmail? Do you fetch the
AA> messages into a local email program?
Thunderbird
AA> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
AA> iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE0OsqKVIE8xZ+slA87w6JZVeJWJsFAmGqvaYACgkQ7w6JZVeJ
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AA> IduBI3lgSR2LpiWFi7ZqvVMWm94s3g==
AA> =v2OV
AA> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check it:
gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID 5789589B
gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
gpg: Can't check signature: General error
Btw: Tommy's signature verify's fine.
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
From:
Wilfred van Velzen (2:280/464)
To: All
Date: Sat, 04.12.21 17:01
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
To: All
Date: Sat, 04.12.21 17:01
Re: tutanota/protonmail/gmail compared
Hi August,
On 2021-12-04 09:17:00, you wrote to me:
WvV>> Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check
WvV>> it:
WvV>> gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID
WvV>> 5789589B gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
WvV>> gpg: Can't check signature: General error
AA> How about this one when I post from OpenXP?
Yes this one is fine. No double spacing and good result:
gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 15:17:40 CET using RSA key ID 5789589B
gpg: Good signature from "August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>" [full]
gpg: aka "August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>"
[unknown]
gpg: aka "August Abolins <august@ashlies.ca>" [unknown]
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AA> 3c/+S0GEwQnbXwhEHFTGgJzX9DTPOg==
AA> =GNAG
AA> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
On 2021-12-04 09:17:00, you wrote to me:
WvV>> Your signature is double spaced, and I get this when I try to check
WvV>> it:
WvV>> gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 02:00:22 CET using RSA key ID
WvV>> 5789589B gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
WvV>> gpg: Can't check signature: General error
AA> How about this one when I post from OpenXP?
Yes this one is fine. No double spacing and good result:
gpg: Signature made za 04 dec 2021 15:17:40 CET using RSA key ID 5789589B
gpg: Good signature from "August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>" [full]
gpg: aka "August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>"
[unknown]
gpg: aka "August Abolins <august@ashlies.ca>" [unknown]
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AA> 3c/+S0GEwQnbXwhEHFTGgJzX9DTPOg==
AA> =GNAG
AA> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Bye, Wilfred.
--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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