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From: Gerhard Strangar (2:240/2188.575)
To: All
Date: Thu, 07.01.21 19:29
My nation, America, took over Congress.
Am 06 Jan 21 20:12:59 schrob paul lee an All zum Thema
<My nation, America, took over Congress.>

pl> He lost... but continues to try any way he can muster, regardless of its
pl> is moral or not, to overturn the results of the election.

I don't get it. I mean, the results are what they are. So what were those
people hoping for? A new election with armed election observers under the
command of the united nations? The end of democracy?



Tschoe mit Oe
Gerhard
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From: Dale Shipp (1:261/1466)
To: All
Date: Fri, 08.01.21 01:54
Re: My nation, America,
-=> On 01-07-21 17:29, Aaron Thomas <=-
-=> spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-

AT> Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee
AT> a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting
AT> the votes of the American people."

Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that
people could vote?

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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From: Dale Shipp (1:261/1466)
To: All
Date: Fri, 08.01.21 02:18
Re: My nation, America,
-=> On 01-07-21 18:39, Aaron Thomas <=-
-=> spoke to Gerhard Strangar about Re: My nation, America, t <=-

AT> Each year we hold elections on election day (Nov 3) and we know
AT> precisely who the winners are early in the morning on Nov 4.

Sometimes that is true.

AT> But this year, powerful Democrats (members of Joe Biden's political
AT> party) made last-minute changes to their voting procedures which turned

Just when were those "last minute changes" made?

AT> "election day" into "election 2 weeks." On top of that, other Democrats
AT> mass-mailed mail-in-ballots (vote from home ballots) to everyone in the
AT> whole country,

You over state. At no time were mail in ballots sent to everyone in the
country. It varied according to state laws. In some states ballots
were mailed to every registered voter. In other states (e.g. my state)
one had to request a mail in ballot. In all cases no mail-in ballot
would be accepted unless it was from a registered voter.

AT> despite the fact that mail-in voting has been restricted
AT> (by law) to military members who are deployed overseas, and to disabled
AT> Americans (people who can't leave home.Wink

Wrong. There are states that have had vote by mail-in ballots *ONLY*
for years. In other states, who is eligible to vote by mail is due to
state law. This year, many states opened up mail-in balloting due to
the fact that the current Covid pandemic has caused in person balloting
dangerous for many people.

AT> Liberals will argue that "The votes of the American people should be
AT> counted," but there's a double-standard. In a previous election, such
AT> as when Barack Obama (Democrat) defeated Mitt Romney (Republican,Wink
AT> there was no Republican movement to extend election day, and there was
AT> no Republican movement to mass-mail absentee ballots to the entire
AT> country "to make sure every voice is heard."

AT> Republicans aren't perfect, but they are unwilling to stoop to such a
AT> low level.

Instead they have used voter suppression and gerrymanding to push the
votes into their favor.

Dale Shipp
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(1:261/1466)


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From: Aaron Thomas (1:275/99)
To: All
Date: Fri, 08.01.21 17:41
Re: My nation, America,
DS> Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
DS> ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that
DS> people could vote?

Yes, you have accurately answered your own question - but there's more to it.

Let's suppose that in 2024 there's a conservative movement that does this:
1) Create a pamphlet that demonizes Democrats, filled with conservative op-eds
2) Staple the propaganda to a mail-in ballot
3) Mail one of these babies to every registered American voter in the world

Will you be ok with that? That's basically what the media and Democrats did.
But here we are saying "We made sure that everybody can vote."

I'll state the obvious - there were no printed liberal pamphlets, but the
media served as that pamphlet.

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From: Aaron Thomas (1:275/99)
To: All
Date: Fri, 08.01.21 17:50
Re: My nation, America,
DS> Just when were those "last minute changes" made?

I don't know. The information wasn't relevant to me until the day after
election day.

DS> You over state. At no time were mail in ballots sent to everyone in the
DS> country. It varied according to state laws. In some states ballots

You're right. I overstated. It happened in some states but not all. But are
you gonna be fine with it if next year's election adheres to these new
policies?

DS> AT> Republicans aren't perfect, but they are unwilling to stoop to such a
DS> AT> low level.
DS>
DS> Instead they have used voter suppression and gerrymanding to push the
DS> votes into their favor.

Mass-mailing ballots + angry Republicans = voter suppression?

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From: Dale Shipp (1:261/1466)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 00:31
Re: My nation, America,
-=> On 01-08-21 16:41, Aaron Thomas <=-
-=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-


DS> Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
DS> ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that
DS> people could vote?

AT> Yes, you have accurately answered your own question - but there's more
AT> to it.

No, there is not more to it.

AT> Let's suppose that in 2024 there's a conservative movement that does
AT> this: 1) Create a pamphlet that demonizes Democrats, filled with
AT> conservative op-eds 2) Staple the propaganda to a mail-in ballot
AT> 3) Mail one of these babies to every registered American voter in the
AT> world

Didn't and wouldn't happen as you state.

AT> Will you be ok with that? That's basically what the media and
AT> Democrats did. But here we are saying "We made sure that everybody can
AT> vote."

The media reports and the ballots were independent things. One hopes
that people are intelligent enough to filter the media reports and look
for the facts and the truth. Unfortunately it has been proven that is
not universally true.

AT> I'll state the obvious - there were no printed liberal pamphlets, but
AT> the media served as that pamphlet.

The media reported on both sides.

Dale Shipp
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From: Dale Shipp (1:261/1466)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 00:35
Re: My nation, America,
-=> On 01-08-21 16:50, Aaron Thomas <=-
-=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-

AT> You're right. I overstated. It happened in some states but not all.
AT> But are you gonna be fine with it if next year's election adheres to
AT> these new policies?

Why not? As I said, there are states which have had voting only by mail
in ballots for years. It has worked just fine for them with no evidence
of any significant fraud.

Dale Shipp
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(1:261/1466)


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From: TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
To: All
Date: Fri, 08.01.21 21:51
Re: My nation, America, t
On 01-07-21, AARON THOMAS said to ALAN IANSON:

AI> Mail in voting is not the evil some would have you believe.
AI>
AI> I mailed in my ballot (and my lady friend) in the last provincial
AI> election here. It was easy and painless.


AT>In our case, it was a process like this:
AT>1) Media destroys Trump and makes the country think less of him
AT>2) Send mail-in ballot to every American (most Americans - first time
AT>ever) 3) Laugh as the brainwashed vote for the guy with the halo over his


AT>head I'm convinved that the media is who elected Joe Biden, and nothing
AT>will stop them from doing it again and again.


When Biden takes the oath it will make the start of a long line of leftist
presidents going forward. My take on it is we probably never see another
republican president for a long long time. When they swear Biden in that will
be the end of America's republic.


They are already locking up social media censorship, and a lot of other sorts
of censorship (Pelosi banning ceertain words and/or phrases in the House).


It will get even worse. Before this Biden administration is over, look for
banning of privately owned firearms to come about.



Taglikne;


"The only person missing from the car carrying Biden and Harris in the
carravan heading to their swearing in will be the dictator of China!"






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From: Aaron Thomas (1:275/99)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 07:45
Re: My nation, America,
DS> No, there is not more to it.

For the first time ever in history, ALL Americans were entitled to mail-in
ballot voting. That was unfair to the incumbents around the nation. Suddenly,
everyone who's been watching the news all day has a ballot in their hand,
where in all of history, they had to walk or drive to the polls. The abrupt
change is not fair to Trump and it's not fair to the 50 or 51% of Americans
who voted for him.

DS> The media reports and the ballots were independent things. One hopes
DS> that people are intelligent enough to filter the media reports and look
DS> for the facts and the truth. Unfortunately it has been proven that is
DS> not universally true.

You're right. It's not true, and people have been eating insanely large doses
of biased commentary for the past 4 years, and now they have a ballot and a
marker literally shoved into their hands by Democrats.

DS> The media reported on both sides.

What about people who don't have cable? Those people (like me) had 5 channels
of liberal broadcast news, but I'm a miracle- I don't listen to their crap.
Guys like you and me will read the news on the internet, but not most
Americans.

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From: Aaron Thomas (1:275/99)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 07:57
Re: My nation, America,
DS> Why not? As I said, there are states which have had voting only by mail
DS> in ballots for years. It has worked just fine for them with no evidence
DS> of any significant fraud.

It's not about fraud, it's about fairness. I think you're a great guy, but it
seems like your fine with Trump having an unfair election because you don't
like the guy. Keep in mind how many people voted for Trump. If it weren't for
all these convenient changes that were made, then you'd possibly be in for 4
more years of Trump.

Let's start the year off right: Instead of battling each other, let's work
together for the greater good. I already stated that I plan to vote in your
(Democrat) primaries. Mine (Republican) are NOT worth my time.

Let's come together on policies so we can tell our puppets (US reps) what we
want them to do.

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From: Aaron Thomas (1:275/99)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 09:08
Re: My nation, America, t
TR> When Biden takes the oath it will make the start of a long line of
TR> leftist presidents going forward. My take on it is we probably never see
TR> another republican president for a long long time. When they swear Biden
TR> in that will be the end of America's republic.

Donald Trump: "The Last President." They aren't called "president" in
socialist regimes.

TR> They are already locking up social media censorship, and a lot of other
TR> sorts of censorship (Pelosi banning ceertain words and/or phrases in the
TR> House).

He's already been "banned" from public broadcast media for 4 years, so Twitter
is nothing.

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From: Ron Lauzon (1:275/89)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 17:52
Re: My nation, America, t
-=> Aaron Thomas wrote to paul lee <=-

AT> Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a
AT> Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the
AT> votes of the American people."

Actually, what happened was Democrats **illegally** changed the ballot
procedures.

According to the U.S. Constitution Article II, Second 1, Clause 2:
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may
direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and
Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no
Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under
the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."

Since the states did **not** go through the legislature to change those rules
(the change often came from the Secretary
of State or the Governor), the changes to the voting process violated the U.S.
Constitution. IHMO: that means that the
votes for President were invalid.


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From: Ron Lauzon (1:275/89)
To: All
Date: Sat, 09.01.21 17:53
Re: My nation, America, t
-=> Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

AT> 3) Laugh as the brainwashed vote for the guy with the halo over
AT> his head

That's not a halo.

That's a flock of little birdies flying around his head really fast.


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