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From: Aidan Grey (1:396/4)
To: n/a
Date: Sun, 14.06.20 14:57
Re: FaxModem Com Port Woes
From: "Aidan Grey" <apgrey@nospam.con>


( Snip Wink

You should check that your COM ports are correctly installed.

Do you have any other COM ports in your system? Add-in cards
usually start at COM3. Does anything change if you try assigning
this add-in card to COM3?

What results do you get from a command such as "MODE COM2:"?
What results do you get if you try the same command for a COM
port that does not exist, such as COM5?

If you have a copy of HyperTerminal on you system, test the
COM port with that. The command "AT" should get a reply back
from the modem.


Aidan Grey




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From: email@owlcroft.com (1:396/4)
To: n/a
Date: Sun, 14.06.20 14:57
Re: FaxModem Com Port Woes
From: email@owlcroft.com

Sorry to be so long in answering the replies.

The modem will both dial and answer, so I presume the COM port is
communicating.

Looking at a VOUT log, it appears that the difficulty is a failure to
train (that is the final error status); but that may simply reflect a
failure or inability of the modem to talk to or understand the other
modem. Here is what nonexpert I think is the crux of the matter:

10/14 14:36:08.53 [2] put_command_19 'AT+FDT\r'
10/14 14:36:08.73 [2] wait_for 'CONNECT\r\n' 60sec
10/14 14:36:08.90 [2] <\r\n+FCS:> !
10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] <1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0\r> @
10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] dcs info 1 5 0 2 0 0 0 0
10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] fine capability
10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] pad = 0ms
10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] negbps = 14400
10/14 14:36:10.01 [2] <\n>
--------------------------------------------------------------
10/14 14:36:14.73 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,4,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
10/14 14:36:21.62 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,4,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
10/14 14:36:27.47 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
10/14 14:36:33.23 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
10/14 14:36:37.89 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,2,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] <\r\n+FHS:> !
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] <25\r> @
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] tiff send failed
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] hangup: Train Fail (37)
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] ***** final status: Error_Train_Fail, 406 ints
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] FmlDone ||n/a|39|
10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] FmlClose 'FMD2'
10/14 14:36:45.05 [2] <\n\r\nOK\r\n>

I *think* that if all were working right, that where the line appears
(my add) would be a CONNECT; instead, a steady lot of speed-downgrade
FCS's all fail.

All else up to that looks ok as best I can judge (which may not be very
well).

The modem settings in the FaxWorks Notebook are:

Class 1
Check TCF Signal
Use HW FIFO (16550A)
Special Command = ATE0Q0S0=0V1X1&C1&D2

(Yes, it has a 16550A, and is supposedly a Class 1/Class 2 modem.Wink

Any ideas (besides hardware defect on the modem)?

Thanks again!

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From: Paul Ratcliffe (1:396/4)
To: n/a
Date: Sun, 14.06.20 14:57
Re: FaxModem Com Port Woes
From: Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78>

On 25 Apr 2006 12:49:11 -0700, email@owlcroft.com <email@owlcroft.com> wrote:

> Any ideas (besides hardware defect on the modem)?

It's a hardware problem. The modems or the line. Nothing to do with software
or configuration.
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From: Barry Mann (1:396/4)
To: n/a
Date: Sun, 14.06.20 14:57
Re: FaxModem Com Port Woes
From: zzzz@zzzz.zzz (Barry Mann)

In <1144281499.616413.301700@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, on 04/05/06

at 04:58 PM, email@owlcroft.com said:

>Not long ago, I moved to an entire new hardware system. I have a PCI
>modem card that I am trying to make work with FaxWorks, and am unable
>to do so.

Your problem could easily be the wrong modem set-up string.

In my case I could never resolve the interrupt problems with the modem
card (ActionTech) I could move the modem to another slot or logically
ask it to use another port. Every time I moved something, another card
would get in the way. Probably there is a motherboard BIOS issue.
Finally I caved and attached a ZOOM RS-232 modem that works fine. (But,
as you can see, I'm still grumpy.Wink

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From: Harald Pollack (1:396/4)
To: n/a
Date: Sun, 14.06.20 14:57
Re: FaxModem Com Port Woes
From: Harald Pollack <Harald_Punkt_Pollack@gmx_Punkt_at>

Servus email@owlcroft.com!

e> The modem will both dial and answer, so I presume the COM
e> port is communicating.

Yes, it is.

e> Looking at a VOUT log, it appears that the difficulty is a
e> failure to train (that is the final error status);

Also, yes

e> but that may simply reflect a failure or inability of the modem to talk to
e> or understand the other modem.

The problem is (or might be) that V.17 (14400bps) is selected as starting
speed.


e> 10/14 14:36:08.53 [2] put_command_19 'AT+FDT\r'
e> 10/14 14:36:08.73 [2] wait_for 'CONNECT\r\n' 60sec
e> 10/14 14:36:08.90 [2] <\r\n+FCS:> !
e> 10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] <1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0\r> @
e> 10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] dcs info 1 5 0 2 0 0 0 0
e> 10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] fine capability
e> 10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] pad = 0ms
e> 10/14 14:36:08.91 [2] negbps = 14400

V.17, 14400bps is negotiated first...

e> 10/14 14:36:14.73 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,4,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
e> 10/14 14:36:21.62 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,4,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>

Trainings fails at 12000bps

e> 10/14 14:36:27.47 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>
e> 10/14 14:36:33.23 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>

.... fails at 9600bps

e> 10/14 14:36:37.89 [2] <\r\n+FCS:1,2,0,2,0,0,0,0\r\n>

.... fails at 4800bps.

e> 10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] <\r\n+FHS:> !
e> 10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] <25\r> @
e> 10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] tiff send failed
e> 10/14 14:36:45.04 [2] hangup: Train Fail (37)

Well, that's right. But why?

e> The modem settings in the FaxWorks Notebook are:

e> Class 1

Not at all! Modem uses Class 2.0

e> Check TCF Signal
e> Use HW FIFO (16550A)
e> Special Command = ATE0Q0S0=0V1X1&C1&D2

Meaningless in fax mode.

e> (Yes, it has a 16550A, and is supposedly a Class 1/Class 2 modem.Wink

e> Any ideas (besides hardware defect on the modem)?

Set starting speed to 9600 (V.29) which will fall back to 2400 in worst case.

Starting with V.17 (14400pbs) has the misbenefit, that the whole fall back is
performed in V.17. Starting with V.29 (9600) has the benefit, that after 7200
(V.29) fallback is done to V.27ter (4800 and 2400).

Herzliche Gruesse, Harald

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